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[title] => LIARS AND INCOMPETENTS ALL
[time] => 2004-08-26 02:20:57
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[bodytext] => BEFORE 9/11
Colin Powell - February 24, 2001:
'He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours.'
Colin Powell - May 15, 2001:
Saddam Hussein has not been able to 'build his military back up or to develop weapons of mass destruction' for 'the last 10 years'.
Condaleeza Rice - two months before 9/11:
'Saddam does not control the northern part of the country.' 'We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt.'
AFTER 9/11
Colin Powell - February 5, 2003:
'We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.'
Colin Powell - May 4, 2003:
'I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.'
Dick Cheney - August 26, 2002:
'Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.'
George W. Bush - September 12, 2002:
'Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.'
Ari Fleischer - December 2, 2002:
'If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.'
Ari Fleischer - January 9, 2003:
'We know for a fact that there are weapons there.'
Colin Powell - March 7, 2003:
'So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.'
George W. Bush - March 17, 2003
'Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.'
Tony Blair - September 2002:
'Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction programme is active, detailed and growing. 'The policy of containment is not working. The weapons of mass destruction programme is not shut down. It is up and running now.'
Ari Fleisher - March 21, 2003:
Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.
Gen. Tommy Franks - March 22, 2003:
'There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.'
Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman - March 23, 2003:
'I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.'
Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark - March 22, 2003:
'One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.'
Donald Rumsfeld - March 30, 2003:
'We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.'
Neocon scholar Robert Kagan - April 9, 2003:
'Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.'
George W. Bush - April 24, 2003:
'We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.'
Donald Rumsfeld - April 25, 2003:
'There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.'
George W. Bush - May 3, 2003:
'We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.'
AFTER THE INVASION OF IRAQ
Donald Rumsfeld - May 4, 2003:
'We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.'
George W. Bush - May 6, 2003:
'I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.'
Condoleeza Rice - May 12, 2003:
'U.S. officials never expected that 'we were going to open garages and find' weapons of mass destruction.'
Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne - May 13, 2003:
'I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden.'
Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps - May 21, 2003:
'Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.'
Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff - May 26, 2003:
'Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.'
Donald Rumsfeld - May 27, 2003:
'They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.'
Paul Wolfowitz - May 28, 2003:
'For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.'
Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force - May 30, 2003:
'It was a surprise to me then — it remains a surprise to me now — that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there.'
George W. Bush Interview with TVP Poland - 5/30/2003:
'But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.'
George W. Bush Press Briefing - 5/30/2003:
'You remember when [Secretary of State] Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons ...They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two...And we'll find more weapons as time goes on And we'll find more weapons as time goes on.'
David Kay on CNN - June 8, 2003:
'Former U.N. weapons inspector David Kay told CNN on Saturday that though there was a 'lack of strong evidence' that the vehicles had been used to produce deadly biological agents, 'the most likely use' and 'the most probable use' was to create biological weapons. He said suggestions that the mobile labs had some more benign application, such as producing agricultural chemicals, were unlikely.
Kay saw one of the vehicles on a recent trip to Iraq and received reports on the second.
Kay said most of the alternative uses that have been suggested 'didn't pass the laugh test.'
'The silliest one,' Kay said, was the suggestion that they had been designed to generate hydrogen for meteorological balloons.'
David Kay - BBC - Monday, 2 February, 2004:
'The day before Dr Kay appeared on the scene Mr Dick Cheney, the Vice-President of the United States, asked of the administration's critics: how about those two trailers that were found in Iraq? Surely they were conclusive proof of mobile, biological weapons.
Dr Kay on the day of his retirement immediately answered the vice-president. The trailer story was, he said, a fiasco. They were intended to produce hydrogen.'
Secretary Powell - Time - June 9, 2003
'We didn't just make them up one night. Those were eyewitness accounts of people who had worked in the program and knew it was going on, multiple accounts. 'Oh, it was a hydrogen-making thing for balloons. ' No, There's no question in my mind what it was designed for.'
George W Bush - Washington Post - June 10, 2003:
'Iraq had a weapons program. Intelligence throughout the decade showed they had a weapons program. I am absolutely convinced with time we'll find out that they did have a weapons program.' (From a Cabinet meeting on June 9)
Press Secretary Fleischer - Washington Post - June 10, 2003:
'The president, in saying programs, also applies that to weapons. The president had repeatedly said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that includes everything knowable up to the opening shots of the war. We still have confidence in that information. You could say Iraq continues to have weapons of mass destruction. We have confidence we're going to find them. They're still there.'
Donald Rumsfeld - June 2003:
“I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons… I don't know anybody in any government or any intelligence agency who suggested that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons. That's fact number one.”
George W. Bush - October 2002:
“The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his ‘nuclear mujahideen’.... his nuclear holy warriors… Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof.... the smoking gun.... that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.”
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LIARS AND INCOMPETENTS ALL
Contributed by
steeleyes
on
Thursday, 26th August 2004 @ 02:20:57 AM in AEST
Topic:
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BEFORE 9/11
Colin Powell - February 24, 2001:
'He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours.'
Colin Powell - May 15, 2001:
Saddam Hussein has not been able to 'build his military back up or to develop weapons of mass destruction' for 'the last 10 years'.
Condaleeza Rice - two months before 9/11:
'Saddam does not control the northern part of the country.' 'We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt.'
AFTER 9/11
Colin Powell - February 5, 2003:
'We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.'
Colin Powell - May 4, 2003:
'I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.'
Dick Cheney - August 26, 2002:
'Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.'
George W. Bush - September 12, 2002:
'Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.'
Ari Fleischer - December 2, 2002:
'If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.'
Ari Fleischer - January 9, 2003:
'We know for a fact that there are weapons there.'
Colin Powell - March 7, 2003:
'So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.'
George W. Bush - March 17, 2003
'Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.'
Tony Blair - September 2002:
'Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction programme is active, detailed and growing. 'The policy of containment is not working. The weapons of mass destruction programme is not shut down. It is up and running now.'
Ari Fleisher - March 21, 2003:
Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.
Gen. Tommy Franks - March 22, 2003:
'There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.'
Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman - March 23, 2003:
'I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.'
Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark - March 22, 2003:
'One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.'
Donald Rumsfeld - March 30, 2003:
'We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.'
Neocon scholar Robert Kagan - April 9, 2003:
'Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.'
George W. Bush - April 24, 2003:
'We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.'
Donald Rumsfeld - April 25, 2003:
'There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.'
George W. Bush - May 3, 2003:
'We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.'
AFTER THE INVASION OF IRAQ
Donald Rumsfeld - May 4, 2003:
'We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.'
George W. Bush - May 6, 2003:
'I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.'
Condoleeza Rice - May 12, 2003:
'U.S. officials never expected that 'we were going to open garages and find' weapons of mass destruction.'
Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne - May 13, 2003:
'I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden.'
Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps - May 21, 2003:
'Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.'
Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff - May 26, 2003:
'Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.'
Donald Rumsfeld - May 27, 2003:
'They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.'
Paul Wolfowitz - May 28, 2003:
'For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.'
Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force - May 30, 2003:
'It was a surprise to me then — it remains a surprise to me now — that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there.'
George W. Bush Interview with TVP Poland - 5/30/2003:
'But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.'
George W. Bush Press Briefing - 5/30/2003:
'You remember when [Secretary of State] Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons ...They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two...And we'll find more weapons as time goes on And we'll find more weapons as time goes on.'
David Kay on CNN - June 8, 2003:
'Former U.N. weapons inspector David Kay told CNN on Saturday that though there was a 'lack of strong evidence' that the vehicles had been used to produce deadly biological agents, 'the most likely use' and 'the most probable use' was to create biological weapons. He said suggestions that the mobile labs had some more benign application, such as producing agricultural chemicals, were unlikely.
Kay saw one of the vehicles on a recent trip to Iraq and received reports on the second.
Kay said most of the alternative uses that have been suggested 'didn't pass the laugh test.'
'The silliest one,' Kay said, was the suggestion that they had been designed to generate hydrogen for meteorological balloons.'
David Kay - BBC - Monday, 2 February, 2004:
'The day before Dr Kay appeared on the scene Mr Dick Cheney, the Vice-President of the United States, asked of the administration's critics: how about those two trailers that were found in Iraq? Surely they were conclusive proof of mobile, biological weapons.
Dr Kay on the day of his retirement immediately answered the vice-president. The trailer story was, he said, a fiasco. They were intended to produce hydrogen.'
Secretary Powell - Time - June 9, 2003
'We didn't just make them up one night. Those were eyewitness accounts of people who had worked in the program and knew it was going on, multiple accounts. 'Oh, it was a hydrogen-making thing for balloons. ' No, There's no question in my mind what it was designed for.'
George W Bush - Washington Post - June 10, 2003:
'Iraq had a weapons program. Intelligence throughout the decade showed they had a weapons program. I am absolutely convinced with time we'll find out that they did have a weapons program.' (From a Cabinet meeting on June 9)
Press Secretary Fleischer - Washington Post - June 10, 2003:
'The president, in saying programs, also applies that to weapons. The president had repeatedly said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that includes everything knowable up to the opening shots of the war. We still have confidence in that information. You could say Iraq continues to have weapons of mass destruction. We have confidence we're going to find them. They're still there.'
Donald Rumsfeld - June 2003:
“I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons… I don't know anybody in any government or any intelligence agency who suggested that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons. That's fact number one.”
George W. Bush - October 2002:
“The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his ‘nuclear mujahideen’.... his nuclear holy warriors… Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof.... the smoking gun.... that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.”
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Re: LIARS AND INCOMPETENTS ALL
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by pvd on
Thursday, 26th August 2004 @ 06:29:37 AM AEST
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How do you know a Republican is lying?
Answer:
There lips move.
Keep the info coming ,not everyone is aware of these deceptions of profit hungery vultures.
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Re: LIARS AND INCOMPETENTS ALL
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by DJ_The_Young_Grasshopper on
Thursday, 26th August 2004 @ 02:04:48 PM AEST
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Well, not a poem, but good information nonetheless. Like your letter from Osama, you should put this in an email and have it spread like wildfire.
Anyway, people who read these wonder if Kerry would make a better President, so I'm reposting an earlier comment here:
We feel that Kerry is much better than Bush for a variety of reasons.
1. Bush has continued to provide large buisnesses tax incentives for outsourcing their jobs. Part of Kerry's economic plan is to keep these jobs in the U.S. by providing a tax cut to businesses who do not outsource their jobs to other countries.
2. Bush has sent soldiers like myself off to Iraq without proper body armor. Statistics show that 25% of the deaths that have occured in Iraq could have been prevented with the use of better body armor (that's nearly 250 troops). Some parents have actually had to buy their children body armor while they served in Iraq. Kerry has pledged to pay back these families the money that they have spent on the armor. I've actually heard people say that they don't want to spend their taxes on this. My response is to get out of my country. If you don't think I should get the best body armor to defend your freedom, I don't want to defend your freedom.
3. Millions of families under Bush have lost health care coverage due to the high costs of healthcare. John Kerry pledges that he will roll back the costs of premiums by up to $1,000 a year, reduce the cost of prescription drugs, and make health care affordable to all Americans.
4. Bush refuses to raise the minimum wage. Kerry says he will raise it to $7 a hour.
5. Bush was quoted as saying about bin Laden: "I don't know where he is. I am not that concerned about him." Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards, who served on the Senate Armed Services Commitee for Counter-Terrorism and has helped in the hunt for bin Laden long before 9/11 said about bin Laden: "We will destroy you."
6. The war in Iraq is the ONLY modern war in U.S. history where there have been post-war combat casualties. This is due to poor planning for the post-war on the part of the Bush administration. Changing horses midstream is a great idea, because this horse is sinking fast.
7. Bush only sent a few soldiers after bin Laden, and then took almost all resources away from him to concentrate on a country that had nothing to do with Al Queda or 9/11 (Iraq). Bush has refused to increase the intelligence budget beyond $40 million because he would have to roll back the tax cuts on the richest 1% of Americans to do it. Almost every counter-terrorism expert in the U.S. has said that America is now more vulnerable to a terrorist attack than it was on 9/10. Kerry has plans to increase funding to first responders (Bush has cut funding), better guard our ports and borders (Bush has done almost nothing about this until recently, and only to help him in an election year), further increase our intelligence capabilities, and create a civil defense corps similar to the ones used in WWII, in case of another terrorist attack.
Now you have seven reasons why Kerry would make a better President than Bush. |
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