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Array ( [sid] => 136097 [catid] => 1 [aid] => mick [title] => Prayer for the Dead [time] => 2007-07-20 12:59:31 [hometext] => [bodytext] => "A prayer for the dead.. we bid thee not
As all our mortal love grows pale-
Or are all these needs so soon forgot
when they have passed beneath the veil?"


______________________________________


Shall parayer's strong pleadings pierce the skies
For those we still keep with us here,
Or does not a single wish arise
To our loved ones in that lofty sphere?

Have they no conquests yet to win,
Nor nobel heights of truth to climb?
Does no strange syllable of sin
Bare false, the cadence of this rhyme?

Has God broken the sweetest ties
He took such loving pains to weld?
Saying, "Henceforth their memories
In prayerless silence must be held!"

Pray for the dead and the chains that bind
Our souls to theirs.. so forged on High..
Borne upward, they will surely find
The links still fastened in the sky!

So, who among us is wise to say
That they have lost the need for prayer?
For Heaven's not so far away
That they should go unremembered there!


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Prayer for the Dead

Contributed by Man_On_High on Friday, 20th July 2007 @ 12:59:31 PM in AEST
Topic: oops



"A prayer for the dead.. we bid thee not
As all our mortal love grows pale-
Or are all these needs so soon forgot
when they have passed beneath the veil?"


______________________________________


Shall parayer's strong pleadings pierce the skies
For those we still keep with us here,
Or does not a single wish arise
To our loved ones in that lofty sphere?

Have they no conquests yet to win,
Nor nobel heights of truth to climb?
Does no strange syllable of sin
Bare false, the cadence of this rhyme?

Has God broken the sweetest ties
He took such loving pains to weld?
Saying, "Henceforth their memories
In prayerless silence must be held!"

Pray for the dead and the chains that bind
Our souls to theirs.. so forged on High..
Borne upward, they will surely find
The links still fastened in the sky!

So, who among us is wise to say
That they have lost the need for prayer?
For Heaven's not so far away
That they should go unremembered there!


B




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Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by emystar on Friday, 20th July 2007 @ 01:32:49 PM AEST
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Good work, my friend.
Awesome writing.
big huggs,
emy


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by Vampirequeen on Friday, 20th July 2007 @ 01:43:49 PM AEST
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Amazing writing here Billy ,

Pray for the dead and the chains that bind
Our souls to theirs.. so forged on High..
Borne upward, they will surely find
The links still fastened in the sky!

Love those lines
nice having you back :)

take care

hugs


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by PoeticHybrid on Friday, 20th July 2007 @ 02:32:23 PM AEST
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"Pray for the dead and the chains that bind
Our souls to theirs.. so forged on High..
Borne upward, they will surely find
The links still fastened in the sky!"

Beautiful lines from a great write. Thanks for sharing.


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by tifrob on Friday, 20th July 2007 @ 03:58:41 PM AEST
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Absolutely, a real piece of work. It is a beautiful poem.

J~


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by Dom on Friday, 20th July 2007 @ 06:47:06 PM AEST
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Just beautiful, you have crafted lines like gentle whispers falling in my ears, lines filled with understanding and warmth.
Lovely to read,

Dom


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by brew on Friday, 20th July 2007 @ 10:04:09 PM AEST
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A lovely and cherishing write, from someone who has a good heart. Glad to see a post from thee.....always a pleasure to read one of yours.


Brew~


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by shelby on Saturday, 21st July 2007 @ 05:17:57 AM AEST
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This is touching.... leaving my thoughts to roam freely..... the last stanza hits really hard.

Michelle


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by Former_Member on Saturday, 21st July 2007 @ 01:10:35 PM AEST
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This was both moving and deeply beautiful. Captivating and very rhythmic. I especially love the concept of both prayer and death. The need for prayer when someone has passed. This was presented in such a descriptive and emotional way that one cannot help but to almost be brought to tears when remembering their own dead, and what they felt at that moment of passing.

Which is exactly why it is more than horrifying to know that such a well established poet on YPDC would not only blatantly plagiarize but would accept such high praise without stating to us that hey, this is not my poem. After reading this, I went and checked other work, and found that this is not the first time you have practiced this deceit on the site. Deceit, not only because you have claimed something that is not yours, on more than one occasion, but that you have actually tricked the reader into praising you instead of the original author. And here, Eaton's poem is not even an obscure piece. Granted, it's not The Raven, How Do I Love Thee, or The Road Not Taken, but this is a poem that people have studied and was even quoted in a recent film.

Billy, up until today, I admired your writing. I thought you were a gifted poet, and this you may still be. Unfortunately this is the ultimate deception- the deception of yourself, because now, those that have discovered that you have plagiarized, are going to wonder if the poems you have created are really yours. As far as I am concerned you have discredited yourself as a poet and I have no respect for anything you've written anymore. For, how am I to know that there is not some obscure, amateur poet, whose work you've been stealing from the beginning? Indeed, how are any of us to know?

I refer you to your own piece, where you criticized someone else for plagiarizing, entitled tsk, tsk, tsk.

I had considered sending this to you in a PM, but plagiarism something that should not be overlooked and should be made public. Especially when it is a repeated offense. You have read my poetry before and have received some of it well. Some of it was received with criticism and I respected your view both ways. In fact, one time you even had me questioning myself as a poet, because I respected your ability so much that when you told me something of mine was not up to par, I believed it to be so. Now, none of that matters because while I may not be the greatest poet in the world, I have never plagiarized anyone. And never will. I have for better or worse, in everything I've done artistically, in poetry, film, etc., have given what was in me; my passion, my words, my art.
Billy, what about the others that you have criticized that may or may not have been good poets themselves? How can you dare give someone a comment whether positive or negative, when you do not understand the principles of what it is to be a poet? You are not a poet. You are not artist. You are a fraud. And that's the extent of plagiarism. You are a plagiarist, multiple times over. Plagiarism is a crime; people have lost careers over plagiarism and just like you, on an amateur level, they were outed publicly. It is against site rules and it is a crime and should not be taken lightly. Billy I am sorry. My intent is not to embarrass you. My intent is to show people that your art cannot be trusted. And only because you allowed me this opportunity. I wish this hadn't happened. I wish I could remember you as a poet. Not as a fraud.

Daniel

here is the URL to the original poem.

http://www.bartleby.com/248/1177.html


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by Man_On_High on Saturday, 21st July 2007 @ 04:54:46 PM AEST
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I know what this is about.. you've been miffed at me for a while now, regarding a comment I'd left to you, pertaining tto some minor grammatical error you'd made.. and so, you felt it necessary to augment some trivial similarities (lest you're over blown, emotionally inept tirade)

perhaps, if you'd never made thaat initial mistake.. then, you'd have saved us both, the embarrassment of your ill-fated comment.


Move on to the next "excuse" please..

it's just as well~

G'night 'crow.. once and for all!


B


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by Former_Member on Sunday, 22nd July 2007 @ 02:50:08 AM AEST
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Firstly Billy I have not been miffed at you. Not even now I feel sorry for you. In fact I feel sorry for a mother because she may very well not be what you are a son of!

Billy this has happened numerous times. I have counted 8 (so far) times where you have blatantly plagiarized someone. Minor similarities?

Billy this is a complete rip off you have five or six word changes and that is it. THIS IS NOT YOUR POEM BILLY! YOU ARE A FRAUD! If I were miffed it wouldn't matter. The proof is here and in the url I provided. And today just so there is no argument, just so nobody says that I was out of line. I am publicly bringing forth all of the plagiarisms I have discovered so far. 8 times MAN! How can you feel justified? YOU ARE A FRAUD, A FAKE, and not an ounce of poetic blood dwells in you. You are a coward, a tool, a flagrant idiot. Most of all you are a criminal. PLAGERISM is a crime, punishable by law! I am Pming anyone who has commented on your poems that were not yours and making sure they know you lied to them. You lied to us all. I am outing you in the forums. I am outing you in comments to each poem you have plagiarized. When I am done you should be too embarrassed to say the word poet. I cannot believe you even attempted to justify this. How dare you actually attempt to make this seem as if it was a personal problem I had with you. Here's a word of advice (for those who believe I was miffed at you). If you believe someone has a microscope on you don't show him your germs. Because ultimately the germs are not his fault they are yours! Billy you showed your germs whether or not I had a beef means nothing. You are guilty of plagiarism multiple times over regardless and I had nothing to do with your fraud! Kudos my friend on being the biggest loser I have ever known. You are nothing and so yes my friend goodbye!

- Daniel

Who would love to meet you in a dark alley one day. Oh and you can bring big brother with you!


Re: Prayer for the Dead (User Rating: 1 )
by Former_Member on Sunday, 22nd July 2007 @ 05:50:33 AM AEST
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UPDATE:


Billy of your last 25 poems 24 of them are definite and blatant acts of obvious plagiarism. You are a fraud. I have provided a link on each of those 24 posts. The one I did not find to be fraud "Forget" probably is. Yet I cannot find definitive online proof of it.

Arthur Rhimbaud and Sir Thomas Moore were among those who you STOLE from. Most importantly you stole authentic reaction to those works from those who commented. You should be embarrased and ashamed. I ask you to do us all a favor and neve pick up he concept of writing poetry again. Ban yourself from the thought. You are not a poet, but a fraud! And a son of something I feel I shouldn't call your mother, but what else should I dare call you. Jack ass, moron, idiot, fraud, fake, counterfit, plastic poet, the list goes on and on. May there come a day when we meet face to face. I would love five minutes alone with you. Love it! Here's sending you every possible insult one can imagine, because I have thought of many things I could not type.




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